Peter Butler has had one hell of a life in football.

The midfielder scored in all four professional divisions in England during a playing career spanning more than 500 games. He then forged a profession as a coach in Africa and south-east Asia.

His CV includes Malaysia, Singapore, South Africa Thailand, Myanmar, Botswana, Australia and, of course, Indonesia.

I spoke to him in the break in the GO-JEK Liga 1 season for Ramadan. He had led Persipura Jayapura into contention for the title. However, a few weeks after this interview, Butler would part ways with the club.

As you would expect, the Yorkshireman has strong views on the sport in Africa and Asia. But he also talks with passion and perspective on the English game.

Peter Butler has had a unique career in football, going to places and achieving things others have not.

He is worth a listen.